Saturday, August 30, 2008

Obama, Gustav, and McCain

Given that Obama commands the waters, we shouldn't be surprised that Gustav is about to destroy New Orleans again during the Republican Convention. Obama commands it so!

13 comments:

Pastor_Jeff said...

Maybe he's the inspiration for Percy Jackson, son of Poseidon. Or it could just be this.

No, stop it!

I have to get some sleep tonight, and you keep making me laugh.

Pastor_Jeff said...

You've just inspired the next Arabic phrase every American will know:

Insh'Obama

Pastor_Jeff said...

Gaaah! Stop it!

I'm leaving now. I mean it.

AnastasiaBeaverhausen said...

Shame on you for this comparison...you don't make fun like this during a real serious situation where millions could be affected. If anything, McCain is desperate and his Rovians will be seen as the evil SOBs that they are. They don't care about regular people, Katrina showed us that. Stop this hate talk and come toward the light I beg all of you!

Icepick said...

Shame on me for mocking Obama's self-importance? He is the one who has talked of his powers to lower the oceans.

As for New Orleans - your insistance that Republicansw are incapable of feeling the pain of others - and the implication that they revel in it - is far worse than anything I suggest here.

And given that Democratic Big Shots such as Michael Moore and Don Fowler are ACTIVELY CHEERING for the destruction of New Orleans so they can pick up a few more electoral votes your mention of Democrats as "the light" is just plain wrong. Look to the bastards in your own party for a change.

Icepick said...

Really, this just chaps my ass. Michael Moore, Don Fowler and other Democrats are claiming that God is one their side because he's going to kill a bunch of their own voters to create a bad photo op for the Republicans. Note too that Keith Olberman also thinks this is laugh out loud funny. What a despicable bunch of shit heads, and I don't think Obama is any better, since he's not bothering to denounce these people. Exactly what kind of assholes are you people that your happy to see people die (and ostensibly your own voters) so you can score political points? Democrats have really turned into a bunch of goddamned Bolsheviks - anything for the Party, no matter what the harm. Fuck you, Anastasia, and fuck your miserable Democrats.

AnastasiaBeaverhausen said...

Outis wrote:
And given that Democratic Big Shots such as Michael Moore and Don Fowler are ACTIVELY CHEERING for the destruction of New Orleans so they can pick up a few more electoral votes your mention of Democrats as "the light" is just plain wrong. Look to the bastards in your own party for a change.
(plus a few other things too...)

First of all, I have not heard this stuff and I personally do not agree with them...remember, there are EXTREMISTS on both sides and I do not agree with any of them AT ALL. God forbid New Orleans or any coastal cities for that matter should suffer that fate (and I live in a coastal area) - and because I love you, I'll ignore some of the more angry intonations.

Neither of these parties is perfect by any means. Neither are the candidates. But, as I have gotten older and seen what I have seen with my parents, now my brother and even now myself and my own health and other matters, I just feel that the Dems have a better grasp this time after this Bush/Cheney admin.

Pastor_Jeff said...

That was the former head of the DNC laughing about the destruction of the N.O during the GOP convention. Not exactly an "extremist."

Not sayin' the GOP isn't capable of the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot, but it certainly blows away any Democratic pretense about caring for common people.

AnastasiaBeaverhausen said...

Pastor_Jeff said...
That was the former head of the DNC laughing about the destruction of the N.O during the GOP convention. Not exactly an "extremist."

Not sayin' the GOP isn't capable of the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot, but it certainly blows away any Democratic pretense about caring for common people.

I refer you to today's Daily Kos re the RNC and religious right calling for prayers for rain and deluge the last night of the DNC (see video too)- it is just wrong no matter which side if comes from.

justkim said...

Anatasia, said:

remember, there are EXTREMISTS on both sides and I do not agree with any of them AT ALL.


Anastasia, if what you said here is true, I strongly recommend you stop looking to the Dasily Kos to support your positions. The "Daily Kos" is a known bastion for the most extreme of the left (witness their current attempts to discredit Palin by stating her baby isn't her own, among other things). You only discredit yourself when you cite them as a reference.

You have already displayed your willingness to adopt extremist views by referring to those readers of this blog who disagree with you as "Nazi-Republican[s]" and "Cindy McCain Stepford Plastic Surgery clones". You may claim to disagree with the extremists, but you have wasted no time in adopting their rhetoric.

You are, of course, welcome to disagree with anything you read here and elsewhere. What you have done here instead, in my opinion, is walk into Outis' virtual home and proceeded to relieve yourself on the virtual carpet with these continued unfounded, baseless personal attacks on people you claim to "love". Your comments are aggravating at best, and hurtful at worst.

If you want to disagree with us, by all means continue to do so. I ask you though, please stop with the mean-spirited nastiness. I know you to be a better, more intelligent, more articulate person than this. The name calling is only alienating you from your friends. It seems that you are losing yourself behind your on-line persona and becoming little more than a trolling left-wing whackaloon.

I ask you to please engage in issues with honest debate of ideas. If you dislike Sarah Palin, please explain why. Don't dismiss my arguments by saying "whatever"; please make an attempt to counter or understand my position. I understand that you feel you and your family has been harmed by Republican policies, but perhaps you could explain what specific policies of Obama's you think will help.

Personally, I was seriously considering voting for Obama, for several reasons, not least of which is a strong discomfort with McCain. I'm still open to changing my mind, though I admit it will take a lot to convince me at this point. I'm happy to have this discussion with you here or elsewhere, but only if you engage the ideas honestly.

Much love.

AnastasiaBeaverhausen said...

Just Kim wrote:
You are, of course, welcome to disagree with anything you read here and elsewhere. What you have done here instead, in my opinion, is walk into Outis' virtual home and proceeded to relieve yourself on the virtual carpet with these continued unfounded, baseless personal attacks on people you claim to "love". Your comments are aggravating at best, and hurtful at worst.

If you want to disagree with us, by all means continue to do so. I ask you though, please stop with the mean-spirited nastiness. I know you to be a better, more intelligent, more articulate person than this. The name calling is only alienating you from your friends. It seems that you are losing yourself behind your on-line persona and becoming little more than a trolling left-wing whackaloon.

I am so sorry that I have opinions different from yours and that my odd sense of humor does not come across as coherently as all of yours does. Thank you for reminding me that I am not as smart as you are (which I have always known) and that I have hurt anyones feelings, because none of my comment were meant to be personal or isolating in any way, they were just my opinions. Since blogging is new to me, I am not aware of the rules and regulations which you have set me straight on. So I apologize to all here for being a liberal northerner who lost herself in what I thought was spirited discussion, but never meant to be meanspirited or hurtful in any way.

Icepick said...

Neither of these parties is perfect by any means. Neither are the candidates.

Then quit telling me how wonderful your party is. Don Fowler isn't "some extremist", and the Democratic Party has made a point of embracing Michael Moore. That is THE MAINSTREAM of your party. And there is a HUGE difference in hoping that Obama gets wet while reading a speech and hoping for the destruction of a city because it will make the other guys look bad.

Icepick said...

PJ wrote: Not sayin' the GOP isn't capable of the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot, but it certainly blows away any Democratic pretense about caring for common people.

This is the crux of it. I have supported the Republican Party for stretches in the past because I thought they were marginally less bad than the Democrats on most issues, and somewhat less bad on a couple of issues. At the moment I no longer feel there’s enough difference between them to bother voting for one or the other. I haven't been under the illusion that the parties are for anything OTHER than themselves for a very long time.

AB wrote: But, as I have gotten older and seen what I have seen with my parents, now my brother and even now myself and my own health and other matters, I just feel that the Dems have a better grasp this time after this Bush/Cheney admin.

In all my life, I have never been helped by the Democratic Party. I haven't been helped much by the Republican Party, save on the issue of tax breaks. But neither party has done anything to improve my life substantially – that work I have done that myself, or I have had the help of individuals. Political parties just don't factor in to the equation.

Regardless, I don't feel the need for the government to help me in all cases. On some matters it is incontestably their responsibility - police work, for example. Unfortunately, they haven't been that good at it this year.

Foreign policy is another matter that falls under the government’s rubric - it is the rare individual that has foreign policy clout. (And given the results that we've seen from George Soros and Arman Hammer perhaps we'd be better off if fewer did.)

But healthcare? The government has some interests there (vaccinations, sewage treatment), but that doesn't mean they should pick up the tab for my doctors visits. In fact, a not-to-careful examination of Medicare demonstrates that the more government has interfered with healthcare, the more expensive it has become. (The size of Medicare and the complexity of the billing and approval procedures have meant that even people who don't qualify for Medicare or Medicaid are subject to its dictates. This is why doctors’ offices have such large administrative staffs these days.) I have no doubt that any thorough cost/benefit analysis of Medicare would show that it has done far more harm than good.

And in another area where government has held the reins, education, the Democratic Party hasn't exactly shown itself to be brilliant. I'm too lazy to look it up now, but at the recent Democratic National Convention a working group of several hundred Democratic delegates basically admitted that they've been wrong on education for decades, and that their slavish devotion to the teachers' unions have been harmful. I'm glad they've finally admitted it, but how much damage has been done in the meantime? Again, large government involvement is no panacea.

Over and over again I've seen large organizations run over individuals. That includes churches, businesses and governments - especially governments, as they're the biggest of the big. This is backed up by even a cursory reading of history, in any timeframe since agriculture led to civilization.

But you keep telling me, and the Democrats keep telling me, that MORE is always BETTER, especially if the DEMS are in charge. That just doesn't follow. Instead it looks like just another chance for those holding the strings to get rich. For example, the way Joe Biden has enriched his family by funneling lobbyist money to his son in return for earmarks and sweetheart legislation - Joe's just another crook, like Harry Reid and his land scams, Pelosi and her self-serving tax breaks, or Ted Stevens' innovative home repair program. And it is impossible to believe that Obama came out of the "go along to get along and look how far he's gone" Chicago morass and come out of it clean. It's easy enough to surmise that he's dirty as hell even if one doesn't know about his dealings with Rezko and the scam he and his wife ran to get her a huge raise while screwing indigent patients, all the while sticking it to the US tax payer. (I'm not even going to bother adding links for the Obama stuff. It's too well known, and I'm tired of digging it up continually.)

So don't tell me that the Democrats have anything OTHER than their own pockets in mind when they're running for office, and I won't tell you the Republicans are a bunch of sweet innocent lambs. Voting is just a matter of deciding which crooks will either (a) screw the country the least, or (b) toss us some crumbs.